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Daniel Steenwyk
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TimKrazyMon
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"What could possibly be addictive about a pill that makes you feel good all the time?" |
 Posted - 08/15/2009 : 5:28:47 PM
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| Hey Dan, if I am understanding Example #3 correctly, "hope and pray" apparently does qualify as intent to pocket a ball. |
I say to the concept of political correctness: "Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering evil; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee."
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Joel Asher
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Posted - 08/15/2009 : 11:02:58 PM
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| Ya..I kinda thought a "hope and pray" kick was defense.. |
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Terry Moss
Sophmore Member
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Posted - 08/16/2009 : 07:06:52 AM
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| I really like that word "intent" you could really argue that one. I am glad that this video cleared up any questions about what is or is not a defensive shot. |
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michael mcpherson
Senior Member
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Posted - 08/16/2009 : 08:27:19 AM
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| like the guy said, if the shooter shoots hard enough to try and make something, his 'intent' was to pi$$ something in and keep shooting, but their intent is just to make a good hit, that is defense.... made perfect sense to me. |
If you don't know me now, you'll remember me after I run the rack on you. |
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Daniel Steenwyk
League Operator
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Posted - 08/16/2009 : 09:58:55 AM
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| I guess the "intent" is to either stay at the table (no Defensive shot marked) or pass your turn to the oppenent (Defensive shot marked) |
 Daniel Steenwyk
Triad APA
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919-Joe Knows (563-5669)
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dliebes
PHD Member
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"
Mark Twain
"I intend to live forever. So far, so good"
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Posted - 08/16/2009 : 7:14:56 PM
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| That changes everything. |
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michael mcpherson
Senior Member
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 12:24:03 AM
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| Daniel i think you might want to get/rent a projector and show this at all of your next meetings! lol..... it defintley clears things up |
If you don't know me now, you'll remember me after I run the rack on you. |
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brewerar
Senior Member
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 11:16:13 AM
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Now we just need to do it that way!!
It is unfortunate that this relies on the integity AND expertise of every player including the new players to work properly. |
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brewerar
Senior Member
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 11:37:17 AM
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Daniel,
What is your take on the Offensive defense. I often choose a harder shot to cover myself better in the event of a miss. Some would say this is an intentional miss defense because it often results in an effective blocking of a busy pocket. I sometimes do intentionally miss this way, but I always call it in those cases. Most times I am trying to make the shot even if it would leave me worse on the next object ball because of the potential defensive position if I miss. In these cases my intent is both to pocket the ball AND to play defensively.
How should that be marked? Should I be calling defensive on these before I shoot them so they will be marked defensive even if the ball goes in? |
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CGOAD
PHD Member
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 11:47:30 AM
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| If your intent is to make the ball and there might be a chance of leaving it, you still have intent to make it. You might want to call that out in that case maybe so a defense isn't marked when not needed. |
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Daniel Steenwyk
League Operator
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 1:55:33 PM
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the shot is called a 2 way shot and is perfectly legal...Just make sure you let the score keepers know if you intend to pass the turn to the opponent
So in short: Intend to shoot again - No Defense
Intend to Not shoot again = Defense |
Daniel Steenwyk
Triad APA
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919-Joe Knows (563-5669)
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CGOAD
PHD Member
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Posted - 08/17/2009 : 2:28:10 PM
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Originally posted by Daniel Steenwyk
the shot is called a 2 way shot and is perfectly legal...Just make sure you let the score keepers know if you intend to pass the turn to the opponent
So in short: Intend to shoot again - No Defense
Intend to Not shoot again = Defense
Same thing I said......you just tried to re-word it!!!!  |
Edited by - CGOAD on 08/17/2009 2:28:37 PM |
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ricohitman
Freshman Member
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 12:27:57 PM
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| Hmm...s-a-n-d b-a-g-ging...that's just rude. Never heard of that before. |
Edited by - ricohitman on 08/19/2009 12:29:00 PM |
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Susan Gerringer
BA Member
from Henry Ford "Whether you think that you can or that you can't, you are usually right"
from comedian Ron White "You can't fix stupid."
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Posted - 08/20/2009 : 4:01:49 PM
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| The hope-and-pray thing contradicts what I have been told. Very interesting stuff. |
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Daniel Steenwyk
League Operator
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Posted - 08/20/2009 : 4:10:54 PM
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| he never said hope and pray...he said palying the percentages...either way I was surprised too. |
Daniel Steenwyk
Triad APA
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919-Joe Knows (563-5669)
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Marking Defense Video
also here:
